William Penwell

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  Columbia's Wiwa tribe fight back against J.W.s

  by BluesBrother in

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  a story i found on google news .

  i cannot vouch for it's journalistic accuracy , but it is still interesting.. in an act of self-determination, the wiwa tribe expelled the religious organization for contributing to their “cultural and spiritual extermination.

  "the wiwa indigenous community in colombia has expelled a group of missionaries from a church built by jehovah's witnesses inside their territory, which had been perceived as a threat to the culture, traditions and beliefs of the group.. .

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  No surprise. I guess the Wiwa Tribe figured out the JW would not allow them to still practice their traditions after being converted to the JW religion.
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  CO visits me today

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

  so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

  so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

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  These two elders initially assured you that they won't use what you said against you, so that you would feel free to let your hair down. Now that "they" know you are a dangerous apostate, expect an invitation to an official interrogation by other elders who will know exactly what you said and will know the exact self-incriminating questions to put to you.

  I remember years ago at my JC hearing the assured me that what I said would not be used against me but then after when they DF'd me they used my words against me. They are a bunch of f*ing liars. They just want you to open up and confide in them and then use your words against you. They do not care about the indidual person. You could be on the brink of suicide, yet they would still DF you as there first duty is to protect the corporate real estate holdings company the WT.

  
  
  
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  CO visits me today

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

  so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

  so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

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  CO assured me what I say would not be used against me

  Yeah right, you know everything you said in that "shepherding call" will be used against you at your JC hearing.

  
  
  
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  Consolidations of congregations

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.simcoereformer.ca/2016/10/21/jehovahs-witnesses-fold-in-port-dover.

  where have the witnesses gone?

  the remaining 20 witnesses will travel to the neighbour churches now.

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  1998: 13 active Witnesses, 1 baptism, 30 memorial attendance;
  2008: 8 active Witnesses, 0 baptisms, 12 memorial attendance;
  2015: 6 active Witnesses, 0 baptisms, 19 memorial attendance.

  Six active Witlessnesses, I mean at the WT study, 1 contacting the study, 1 reading and 2 on mics, it doesn't leave many to comment.
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  So getting disfellowshipped sounds kind of great.

  by schnell in

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  2. experiences

  i grew up in this religion, i was baptized at 14, married at 27, and now i'm 31. i'm also evolutionist and atheist.

  i wanted this to be the truth.

  i spent years as an apologist trying to reconcile everything.

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  The WT bible teachings cannot stand up to logical scientific evidence. This was the eye opener for me. As long as you know what you are getting into and do not care what the other dub family members think or their shunning, then go for it and don't look back. There is a whole other world out there for you without the cult trying to control you.
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  Fox News article - Eloise Dupuis

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/10/24/after-new-moms-death-jehovahs-witnesses-take-heat.html.

  after new mom's death, jehovah's witnesses take heat.

  a quebec coroner opened an inquest, but health minister gaetan barrette said dupuis made the choice on her own.

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  The sleazy WT society will have their bank of lawyers ready to go on this one. There is no way they will lose.
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  Kingdom Hall sold. Now a mosque.

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so much for dedicating the kingdom hall, hallfields lane, peterborough, .

  pe4 7yh for 'true worship(tm)'.. it's now a mosque.. not that i care anymore, i have finished thinking much about the jobos.

  moved on and glad of it.. just thought you'd be interested.. now i'll sod off again for another few months.

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  This is nothing new a couple of Kingdum Halls sold where I live and is now a Sikh Temple. Well no difference they are all cults.
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  Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .

  spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.

  again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.

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  It wouldn't be the first time the mother organization/GB has left the local elders out to dry.
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  Potential Muslim convert

  by StopTheTears in

  1. jw
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  about a month ago, i purchased arabic/english gospels of john that contain a commentary for muslims.. .

  i went to one of my neighbors and spoke to him and gave him one.

  fast forward to today, my brakes need done so i took my car to the shop, walking back into my street i saw my friend abdullah outside.. .

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  Oh how exciting. Man swaps one set of superstitions for slightly different set of superstitions.
  Halle-bloody-lujah!
  Why have you posted three random internet pics?

  Same s*it, different pile.
  
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  JW's know how to guilt trip....

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.

  some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.

  "how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?

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  The dubs are all trained in their theocratic warfare and are good at using emotional black mail, passive aggressive guilt tripping etc. I have not step foot in a kingdum hall, outside of attending my parents memorial services, now for about 15 years and have being in active for about 30 years yet some of my family members still use these sleazy tactics. I really do not think they know what they are doing but it is due to the brain washing, mind control cult. I know when I was in I used the same type of tactics.

  Back in 1984 when I was newly married and our first son was a newborn, I was missing meetings during the week because I was taking some night school courses to get certifications I need for my job. The Elders came calling on us and warned me of the spiritual dangers of missing meetings and pursuing and education in this time of the end. One of them said "You wouldn't want to have come this far just miss out on everlasting life and have some other man marry your wife and become your son's father would you?"

  I recall back in the mid 80's my ex father in law having a pep talk with me about how short the time of the system is and it was not time to play around in it. A few years later he was stumbled by what some elders said to him and he is no longer a dub to this day. If I ever see him I should say, oh gee I guess the time is getting really short now, time to jump back in.... You know growing up we were told we would not even graduate in this old system. That was 45 years ago and I had a career and I am now retired also.

  Don't you want to see Grandma when she comes back? It will break her heart if you don't make it through Armageddon.

  This one makes no sense to me because as a dub we were told that in the new system that those memories would be whipped from our memories. So in the dubs teachings, old grannie would forget all about you if you did not make it through into the new system.